tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133202879178766730.post4261107957865066164..comments2023-10-10T01:50:56.155-07:00Comments on Johndo- John's path to understanding: Aikido in PoulsboJohn Woodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06352261305908626298noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133202879178766730.post-53537564390589423852008-12-05T14:43:00.000-08:002008-12-05T14:43:00.000-08:00We do both versions in our dojo. It is just a mat...We do both versions in our dojo. It is just a matter of your timing.<BR/><BR/>If you are on time and manage to get a hip switch before uke's lands a second foot, you're good to go.<BR/><BR/>If you're late, you can lead uke in a circle and you'll get another chance at the off-balance and the hip switch into aigamaeate.Scott Zrubekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09672644505722057025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-133202879178766730.post-7921131990094644942008-11-29T14:22:00.000-08:002008-11-29T14:22:00.000-08:00the aigamaeate that you are talking about is what ...the aigamaeate that you are talking about <I>is</I> what karl shows on the video and it is very close to what we learned coming up thru the ranks at msu. but so far as me teaching it at my club to my students, I think it is a variation and not the central idea of the technique.<BR/><BR/>you know, a technique can sort of be like a bell curve where more robust, workable variations are in the middle and less workable or more special-purpose techniques are on the tails of the curve. For kata i wanted to do the back- around version that we always work on because it seems to me to illustrate the center of that technical spectrum. <BR/><BR/>also, for the most part, nijusan is supposed to be about otoshi and that variant you are talking about is sort of a guruma expression of the aigamae idea. Not really a damning reason not to do it that way but it is a little inconsistent.<BR/><BR/>I think that the main reason i do aigamae the way i do instead of doing it that way is because that way is included in my way. that variant you are talking about is the first possible timing instance on that outside motion path for aigamae to happen.<BR/><BR/>Again, though, what they are doing is not wrong. Do it their way in their club and you'll learn a lot! you already know that.<BR/><BR/>and regarding gedan, I'm sure that your miraculous way is just what i've been telling you to do for years. If you guys would actually listen to me for a change and do what I say you would have mastered that technique 4 years ago ;-)<BR/><BR/>seriously, though, karl demonstrated a variant of gedan in a chain a few years ago that involves rising like your talking about. it was amazong, almost like tossing uke straight up, or lifting and letting uke's feet slip like a footsweep. but i've never yet been able to duplicate that, so we've mostly continued on our same idea about gedan. and it works pretty good so i havent worried about it too much.<BR/><BR/>john, you seem to prefer another variant of gedan like we used to play it some years back. but i think that variant is enclosed in the kata form we are doing. once you offbalance uke like you always did, if he pulls back to runs into you or seems offbalance toward his far foot. step directly into that far foot then drop thru uke. if anything goes wrong with that then you don't want to bei n front of him, so turn out behind like we practice now.Patrick Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04471858995477729220noreply@blogger.com